Westcombe Park and Maze Hill Area Low Traffic Neighbourhood contributions

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Happy

over 1 year ago

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Do you broadly agree with stopping through traffic from using local residential roads – making streets safer, healthier and open to everyone?

Positive

Please select which modes of transport you use to move around Royal Greenwich. Select all that apply.

• Walking

• Cycling

• Motor vehicle

• Bus

• Train

• Taxi

Have you noticed an increase in rat-running through traffic levels over recent years?

No

If you have noticed an increase in rat-running what affect has this had on you? Select all that apply.

• None

Do you think the proposed filters are in the right locations?

Yes

What times of the day do you think would work best for cameras to operate?

Morning commute / school run

What days of the week do you think would work best for cameras to operate?

Weekdays

What could a low traffic neighbourhood allow you to do that you don't do now? Choose all that apply.

• Nothing

Please let us know if you have any other comments.

I absolutely agree with the aim to reduce road traffic to reduce climate change and improve air quality. But I don’t feel that this proposal will help to achieve this. I am a resident on Humber Road close to Halstow Road and feel that, whilst the suggestion is that the aim is to target rat-running and through-traffic, I don't see a huge amount of this at this location and am concerned that the LTN proposed will actually be primarily impactful on local resident journeys and journeys to and from residential and business addresses in the area. My family and I already walk, cycle and take public transport where possible to minimise our car use to reduce pollution, but where we do make local journeys, or other vehicles make journeys to visit our address, these will all become significantly (not slightly) longer, journeys, and at lower speeds due to the increased traffic on the fewer remaining routes available. This is obviously inconvenient, but more concerningly means that all of these journeys will cause increased pollution in the area because of this. Additionally - even for through traffic I am concerned that this proposal could simply shift it to other local residential streets (as the increase in traffic in the area of Westcombe Park and Maze Hill quoted in the proposal has coincided with the introduction of traffic reduction trial measures in West Greenwich in August 2020), or congested main roads which will also cause increased overall pollution in the area, as the slower journeys release more pollutants for longer on these roads. If this proposal is truly about dealing with 'through traffic' using residential streets as a shortcut - then could journeys to and from residential and business addresses in the area be excluded from the restrictions? If camera enforced filters were used in all 4 locations, could these grant access to registered vehicles who are travelling to and from residential addresses and businesses in the area in addition to taxis. (Longer term the data gathered through the registration and access granting process could also be used to gain a deeper understanding of the types of journeys being made through the area which could potentially be used to enable better targeted alternative transport options to be developed in the future such as new cycle routes/bus routes/car sharing/school run transport solutions )

Satisfied

over 1 year ago

0

Please select which modes of transport you use to move around Royal Greenwich. Select all that apply.

• Walking

• Cycling

What could a low traffic neighbourhood allow you to do that you don't do now? Choose all that apply.

• Nothing

Please let us know if you have any other comments.

All of the suggested answers to the previous question are very leading. Camera filters are a good idea, but exceptions for residents from the restrictions are needed (e.g. via number plate recognition for residents). A more holistic approach is needed as traffic in West and East Greenwich is connected. Changes in West Greenwich have already impacted the traffic in Westcombe/Maze Hill area, and residents here were not consulted. The impact of any changes in Westcombe/Maze Hill area on areas further east eg Charlton and north (Trafalgar Rd) also need to be considered. And needs of all residents need to be equally considered.

What times of the day do you think would work best for cameras to operate?

Morning and afternoon commute

Have you noticed an increase in rat-running through traffic levels over recent years?

No

If you have noticed an increase in rat-running what affect has this had on you? Select all that apply.

• None

Do you think the proposed filters are in the right locations?

Not sure

Do you broadly agree with stopping through traffic from using local residential roads – making streets safer, healthier and open to everyone?

Mostly positive

If you don't think the proposed filters are in the right locations why is that?

I think that the permanent block on Halstow Road could delay emergency vehicles and perhaps a camera system would be better. Other filters' locations are ok.

What days of the week do you think would work best for cameras to operate?

Seven days a week

Satisfied

over 1 year ago

0

Do you broadly agree with stopping through traffic from using local residential roads – making streets safer, healthier and open to everyone?

Mostly positive

Please select which modes of transport you use to move around Royal Greenwich. Select all that apply.

• Walking

• Cycling

• Motor vehicle

Have you noticed an increase in rat-running through traffic levels over recent years?

No

If you have noticed an increase in rat-running what affect has this had on you? Select all that apply.

• None

Do you think the proposed filters are in the right locations?

Not sure

If you don't think the proposed filters are in the right locations why is that?

The permanent block on Halstow Road risks channeling traffic to other roads, potentially increasing flow there despite other measures. Relief in East Greenwich needs some relaxation at peak times on some parts of West Greenwich to ease the pressure at peak times, a truly wholistic approach is needed to avoid the risk of traffic simply being forced to Charlton. Timed restrictions that allow residents to use their own roads freely is, however, a very good idea.

What times of the day do you think would work best for cameras to operate?

Morning and afternoon commute

What days of the week do you think would work best for cameras to operate?

Weekdays

What could a low traffic neighbourhood allow you to do that you don't do now? Choose all that apply.

• Nothing

Please let us know if you have any other comments.

I fully support plans to introduce measures that would reduce rat runs, but that do not impose on residents ability to access their/our own community and neighbourhood. I would favour times restrictions at peak commuting and school run hours, however, there should be ANPR with residents registering their number-plates so that residents can drive on their streets freely as and when they need to (i.e. allow residents to use the roads as present, restrictions on those not form the area traveling through, with exceptions for vehicles making deliveries to properties in the area if possible). We should not end up, however, in a situation where the increase in traffic flow experienced in the area, particularly for Maze Hill and Vanbrugh Hill, following the introduction of the West Greenwich LTN trial is simply pushed to Charlton and other communities east of the A2. A wholistic approach should therefore be taken. In addition to reasonable measures in East Greenwich & Westcombe area there should be greater flexibility in the application of the West Greenwich LTN at peak times, allowing the traffic that will inevitably come (and in many cases necessarily come - i.e to supply shops on Trafalgar Rd, home deliveries) to be more widely distributed, and therefore gentler on all. The risk with the current proposals is that they could push even more traffic down certain (already overloaded) routes (e.g. Trafalgar Rd area), making it unacceptable for those residents. A timed LTN, that allows residents to move freely (with number plate recognition for residents) is a good idea, however, the current plans need to take into account the impact on nearby areas as well - and the impact of changes on other areas on the Westcobme Park/Maze Hill area. I am a resident of the impacted area.

Dissatisfied

over 1 year ago

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Do you broadly agree with stopping through traffic from using local residential roads – making streets safer, healthier and open to everyone?

Mostly negative

Please select which modes of transport you use to move around Royal Greenwich. Select all that apply.

• Walking

• Motor vehicle

• Bus

• Train

Have you noticed an increase in rat-running through traffic levels over recent years?

No

Do you think the proposed filters are in the right locations?

No

If you don't think the proposed filters are in the right locations why is that?

They make the journeys that local residents make longer and force it through other residential areas

What times of the day do you think would work best for cameras to operate?

Morning commute / school run

What days of the week do you think would work best for cameras to operate?

Weekdays

What could a low traffic neighbourhood allow you to do that you don't do now? Choose all that apply.

• Nothing

Please let us know if you have any other comments.

These questions are utterly biased. No option to say that I don’t want cameras at all. This will force traffic on to other already overloaded roads. There is no provision for carers, the elderly or those with mobility issues, deliveries or school traffic. Policies have placed the main retail areas north of the barriers but these proposals cut the local residents off from the shops. Essential journeys will be longer hence increasing pollution and loading on nearby roads. There is no differentiation made between traffic going north and that coming south which is less of an issue. Putting controls on Vanbrugh Hill just south of John Roan school and on Westcombe Hill just south of Westcombe Park Road would restrict rat runs, reduce cost (two installations rather than three or four) and retain access for residents to the retail areas along Trafalgar Road, Woolwich Road and Bugsbys Way without adding to traffic on the A102.

Satisfied

over 1 year ago

0

Please select which modes of transport you use to move around Royal Greenwich. Select all that apply.

• Walking

• Bus

• Train

• Motor vehicle

Do you broadly agree with stopping through traffic from using local residential roads – making streets safer, healthier and open to everyone?

Mostly positive

Have you noticed an increase in rat-running through traffic levels over recent years?

No

If you have noticed an increase in rat-running what affect has this had on you? Select all that apply.

• None

Do you think the proposed filters are in the right locations?

Not sure

If you don't think the proposed filters are in the right locations why is that?

What is the knock on effect for neighbouring streets outside this area? E.g. The other side of the A2? Charlton etc

What times of the day do you think would work best for cameras to operate?

School run times

What days of the week do you think would work best for cameras to operate?

Weekdays

Please let us know if you have any other comments.

I think we all want safer streets for everyone, but if this creates another problem for families neighbouring the supposed LTN this is just shifting a problem which seems both short sighted and unfair

What could a low traffic neighbourhood allow you to do that you don't do now? Choose all that apply.

• Don’t know yet